Well, the Fat tire clone I had done is now in kegs, but it seems at first (and second) glance that either ProMash has some difficulty with their color scale or I am just using the completely wrong malts. While formulating this recipe (from an established recipe, I might add) it seemed I was a bit weak on the color, so I added a WEE bit of debittered black malt. Doesn't really add to the bitterness but is great for adjusting color. Seems now my amber ale is more of a brown ale. Oh well, guess I'll just have to adjust for the next time. I've got 5 gallons carbonating naturally and about a gallon and a half being forced, so we'll leave the side-by-side tastings for another post.
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